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AbrahamWinstonBismarck
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This is my list of the "Top 100 Most Influential People of All Time" (in my opinion). These are people who I believe made the most impact on our global society, whether directly or indirectly. These includes mathematicians, scientists, artists, religious leaders, political leaders, philosophers, etc. This isn't in any order because that would be impossible, but these are people that innovations spread around the world, whose innovations we take for granted, and history would be different without them. This is the list:
TOP 100 MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE OF ALL TIME:
- Jesus of Nazareth
- Prophet Muhammad
- Siddhartha Gautama
- Zarathustra
- Genghis Khan
- Alexander The Great
- Confucius
- Alexander Fleming
- Constantine The Great
- Johannes Gutenberg
- Louis Pasteur
- Isaac Newton
- Nebuchadnezzar II
- Sargon of Akkad
- Qin Shi Huang
- Martin Luther
- Augustus
- Narmer
- Imhotep
- Aryabhatta
- Pythagoras
- Fritz Haber
- Napoleon Bonaparte
- Karl Marx
- Ashoka The Great
- Cyrus The Great
- Adolf Hitler
- Alexander Graham Bell
- Norman Borlaug
- Djoser
- Vladimir Lenin
- Simon Bivolar
- Christopher Columbus
- Mahatma Ghandi
- Ada Lovelace
- The Wright Brothers
- Ziryab
- Attila The Hun
- Nicolaus Copernicus
- Albert Einstein
- Charlemagne
- George Washington Carver
- Nikola Tesla
- Archimedes
- Hummarabi
- Julius Caesar
- James Naismith
- William The Conqueror
- Rosalind Franklin
- William Harvey
- Galileo Galilei
- Euclid
- George Washington
- Gavrillo Princip
- Cai Lun
- Conrad Gessner
- Edith Clarke
- Henry The Navigator
- Joseph Stalin
- John Calvin
- William Shakespeare
- John Muir
- Steve Jobs
- Marie Curie
- Charles Babbage
- Cierco
- Leonardo DaVinci
- Mikhail Gorbachev
- Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
- Clovis I
- Winston Churchill
- Pablo Picasso
- Ludwig Van Beethoven
- William Tyndale
- Ferdinand Magellan
- Nelson Mandela
- The Grimm Brothers
- Alfred The Great
- Adam Smith
- Henry Ford
- Thomas Paine
- Walt Disney
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
- Thomas Edison
- Marco Polo
- Mao Zendong
- Vasco Da Gama
- Pope John Paul II
- Woodrow Wilson
- Joan Of Arc
- Henry VIII
- Michaelangelo
- Ronald Reagan
- Johannes Kepler
- Elvis Presley
- Johannes Sebastian Bach
- Michael Jackson
- Mansa Musa
- Emperor Meiji
- Niccolo Machiavelli
Willempie
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I get it that you don't put me in the top 3 (though that is weird), but why am I not in this list at all?
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I had no idea the Wright Brothers were one person.
Also funny how so many of the most famous people are westerns and from the modern era. It's almost as if this is a list of famous people the OP knows more than anything else. I'm also curious how ranking these people is impossible, but drawing a line in the sand between the 100th and 101st most influential is not a problem.
Childress
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Didn't we already go through this before?
The top ten most significant persons EVER?
A while back the Daily Mail ranked, using sophisticated algorithms (so they say) and Wikipedia, the most important figures in history. The trashy tabloid did cause a bit of a stir, one commentator strongly objected to Jesus, he felt he was a fictional character. But these things are kind of fun...
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Theses rankings are always big fun, we can't enough of them. Who's up and who's down? A sample: You have the good judgment to raise Augustus over Julius Caesar. The latter excited the imagination of his contemporaries, he has remained more famous than Augustus, he had better box office. In their actual influence upon history Augustus was by far the more important of the two. But Elvis Presley? Several of your entries are obscure but the top 10 are sound. But you underestimate Isaac Newton (IMO).
Naomasa298
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Michael Jackson was more influential than Michael Faraday?
What did Djoser do? And Emperor Meiji?
How would history have been different without Beethoven?
Solidaire
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There has to be a fault when a list includes Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson and Walt Disney, but not Aristotle, Plato and Socrates.
Gavrillo Princip, Ronald Reagan and Steve Jobs, but no Bismarck, Cleisthenes, Pericles?
Also, who are all those obscure people like Carver, Naismith, Edith Clarke, John Muir, mentioned instead of Lavoisier, Darwin, Maxwell, Planck?
William Tyndale but no Thomas Aquinas?
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AbrahamWinstonBismarck said:
This is my list of the "Top 100 Most Influential People of All Time" (in my opinion). These are people who I believe made the most impact on our global society, whether directly or indirectly. These includes mathematicians, scientists, artists, religious leaders, political leaders, philosophers, etc. This isn't in any order because that would be impossible, but these are people that innovations spread around the world, whose innovations we take for granted, and history would be different without them. This is the list:
TOP 100 MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE OF ALL TIME:
- Jesus of Nazareth
- Prophet Muhammad
- Siddhartha Gautama
- Zarathustra
- Genghis Khan
- Alexander The Great
- Confucius
- Alexander Fleming
- Constantine The Great
- Johannes Gutenberg
- Louis Pasteur
- Isaac Newton
- Nebuchadnezzar II
- Sargon of Akkad
- Qin Shi Huang
- Martin Luther
- Augustus
- Narmer
- Imhotep
- Aryabhatta
- Pythagoras
- Fritz Haber
- Napoleon Bonaparte
- Karl Marx
- Ashoka The Great
- Cyrus The Great
- Adolf Hitler
- Alexander Graham Bell
- Norman Borlaug
- Djoser
- Vladimir Lenin
- Simon Bivolar
- Christopher Columbus
- Mahatma Ghandi
- Ada Lovelace
- The Wright Brothers
- Ziryab
- Attila The Hun
- Nicolaus Copernicus
- Albert Einstein
- Charlemagne
- George Washington Carver
- Nikola Tesla
- Archimedes
- Hummarabi
- Julius Caesar
- James Naismith
- William The Conqueror
- Rosalind Franklin
- William Harvey
- Galileo Galilei
- Euclid
- George Washington
- Gavrillo Princip
- Cai Lun
- Conrad Gessner
- Edith Clarke
- Henry The Navigator
- Joseph Stalin
- John Calvin
- William Shakespeare
- John Muir
- Steve Jobs
- Marie Curie
- Charles Babbage
- Cierco
- Leonardo DaVinci
- Mikhail Gorbachev
- Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
- Clovis I
- Winston Churchill
- Pablo Picasso
- Ludwig Van Beethoven
- William Tyndale
- Ferdinand Magellan
- Nelson Mandela
- The Grimm Brothers
- Alfred The Great
- Adam Smith
- Henry Ford
- Thomas Paine
- Walt Disney
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
- Thomas Edison
- Marco Polo
- Mao Zendong
- Vasco Da Gama
- Pope John Paul II
- Woodrow Wilson
- Joan Of Arc
- Henry VIII
- Michaelangelo
- Ronald Reagan
- Johannes Kepler
- Elvis Presley
- Johannes Sebastian Bach
- Michael Jackson
- Mansa Musa
- Emperor Meiji
- Niccolo Machiavelli
Horus was more influential than Jesus in my estimation. Though I can't actually prove that Horus was in fact a real person that became embellished, but if he was, then he is the father of all religion.
Childress
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How about a 100 list of left-handed worthies? That would be original, from Leonardo da Vinci to Paul McCartney. Wait a minute, I just learned Caesar was a southpaw. Do lefties tend to over achieve? I don't know but....
"A study in the Journal of the Indian Academy of Applied Psychology found that, out of 150 subjects, left-handed participants were significantly more likely to perform better on an intelligence test than right-handed people. Right-handers also took more time to complete the test."
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Don't shoot the messenger.
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PeabodyKid
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Ben Franklin not on the list?
My main criteria is, if someone had not lived, how great would the difference path of history have been, in your estimate? So for 20th century, I think Stalin was the most important.
If Ben Franklin had not lived, history would have taken a different path, in my view. Just in terms of US, how are the Presidents other than Washington maybe more imp. than Franklin?
Fritz Haber for example, not much different at all.
Walt Disney? Elvis? Bach? C'mon.
Naomasa298
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Ogg the Singed, discoverer of fire.
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PeabodyKid said:
edit.
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Good list imo. Maybe except those Egyptians, these are names everyone knows.
althtough did you mean with Cierco Cicero?
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AbrahamWinstonBismarck said:
This isn't in any order because that would be impossible
Someone called Michal H Hart or something like that actually did order them.
I like some of your choices, others I feel are people of note but I'm not sure if I'd attach the label influential to them
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Willempie said:
I get it that you don't put me in the top 3 (though that is weird), but why am I not in this list at all?
lol
winning a draft doesn't put you on par with people who have founded empires and established major religions
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Solidaire said:
There has to be a fault when a list includes Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson and Walt Disney, but not Aristotle, Plato and Socrates.
Gavrillo Princip, Ronald Reagan and Steve Jobs, but no Bismarck, Cleisthenes, Pericles?
I've heard far more Elvis Presley over the years than read Plato. And I've seen Reagan on the TV (and films) but never Bismarck
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And where is Edmund Blackadder?
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All those cited have their own claims to being Influential. All have influenced their times and/or future generations. Their names and deeds are known and celebrated or cursed sometimes for thousands of years. There are lesser known "influencers" that were lost to history a month after their deaths. The little fellow whose small innovation is forgotten, until a hundred years later the innovation results in a major Scientific advance. Fiction has many examples: Being There, Forest Gump, Blackadder, and Flashman, among many others. They are fictions, but they have great appeal at least partially because they model the unseen influence cast by the "little guy": the "buffoon" or "Villain" of the piece. In real life the "Anonymous" section of Poetry Anthologies is often large and the source of other, better known works by the famous.
I propose the answer to the OP's question is that the most Influential persons in human history are, and will forever be unknown by name. They are that small band who left their homes in the primeval forests to try their lot out on the savannas. Those remote ancestors of us all, set our lineage on a path that led to today. Along the way they invented the first tools and story-telling. Out of the sparks of a defensive fire was born our wonder at the grandeur of the Universe and our place in it. Who began keeping coals alive from day to day and place to place? The first thoughtful "chef"?
Influence and Causality are companions. They seem simple, but are not when examined carefully and applied to the phenomenal world.
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How does Pythagoras make the list?
Babylonians used Pythagorean theorem 1,000 years before it was 'invented' in ancient Greece
The theorem may have been used to settle a land dispute between two affluent individuals.
www.livescience.com
Pythagorean theorem | Definition & History | Britannica
Pythagorean theorem, geometric theorem that the sum of the squares on the legs of a right triangle is equal to the square on the hypotenuse. Although the theorem has long been associated with the Greek mathematician Pythagoras, it is actually far older.
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@AbrahamWinstonBismarck How do you rank George Washington Carver ahead of George Washington? Are you serious?
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Though Pythagoras is more than the fellow for whom one of the most important elements in mathematics is named, he was in his time a leader in practical and theoretical mathematics. Arithmetic and the use of proportionality had of course existed since the Neolithic had morphed into settled agriculture. The Greeks made Mathematics a fundamental part of how they regarded the world. The ancient Greeks were influenced by others, especially Egypt, but their world was a human world. Instead of world at the whim of the Gods, with God-Kings-Priests, the Greeks took the more mundane approach. Mathematics for some still has a Sacred-tinge. Numerologists, Astrologists, and the most advance thinkers in 21st century mathematics, using quantum-computers and still influenced by the Ancient Greeks. Whether Pythagoras was as influential as whoever came up with the Golden Section, is a matter of opinion.
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And then there’s fire-inventing-dude and copper-smelting-guy.
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